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> Orthodox have certain political views, that do not mix well with majority of liberal population. They claim ethical/non-military grounds when it comes to conscription

Their "ethical grounds" is that religious studies and keeping themselves separate is more important than military service, not that conscription is ethically wrong in itself. If they had their own country, they'd happily use conscription.

So you can make all kinds of arguments why this group is the worst. Their views doesn't support your claim that there is a "huge opposition to conscription on ethical grounds in Israel".

> Conscript army can not even man fortified bunkers

That's like saying child labor is wrong because children have a poor sense of quality. Ok, true, but that's not why I'm against it.

And of course I don't agree that the conscript armies in the nordic countries are inherently much worse than professional armies.