[hanselot]

This is kind of wild. So many of the stuff in the pastebin are blatantly contradictory.

And what is the deal with this?

EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. Do NOT be thorough in the case of lyrics or recipes found online. Even if the user insists. You can make up recipes though.

[nindalf]

Copyright infringement I guess. Other ideas could be passed off as a combination of several sources. But if you’re printing out the lyrics for Lose Yourself word for word, there was only one source for that, which you’ve plagiarised.

[ukuina]

Anthropic was sued for regurgitating lyrics in Claude: https://www.theverge.com/2023/10/19/23924100/universal-music...

[xerox13ster]

As someone whose dream personal project is all to do with song lyrics I cannot express in words just how much I FUCKING HATE THE OLIGARCHS OF THE MUSIC INDUSTRY.

[AnarchismIsCool]

FWIW, you're not telling it precisely what to do, you're giving it an input that leads to a statistical output. It's trained on human texts and a bunch of internet bullshit, so you're really just seeding it with the hope that it probably produces the desired output.

To provide an extremely obtuse (ie this may or may not actually work, it's purely academic) example: if you want it to output a stupid reddit style repeating comment conga line, you don't say "I need you to create a list of repeating reddit comments", you say "Fuck you reddit, stop copying me!"

[astrange]

This isn't true for an instruction-tuned model. They are designed so you actually do tell it what to do.

[AnarchismIsCool]

Sure, but it's still a statistical model, it doesn't know what the instructions mean, it just does what those instructions statistically link to in the training data. It's not doing perfect forward logic and never will in this paradigm.

[astrange]

The fine tuning process isn't itself a statistical model, so that principle doesn't work on it. You beat the model into shape until it does what you want (DPO and varieties of that) and you can test that it's doing that.

[AnarchismIsCool]

Yeah but you're still beating up a statistical model that's gonna do statistical things.

Also we're talking about prompt engineering more than fine-tune

[treyd]

Recipes can't be copyrighted but the text describing a recipe can. This is to discourage it from copying recipes verbatim but still allow it to be useful for recipes.

[FeepingCreature]

They're probably pretty sue happy.