[fhe]

on the other hand, my 10 year old mac mini still runs fine, although it no longer supports the latest OSX and many of the more recent APP's. But as a media/entertainment device, light duty file server, and even coding the occasional throwaway program, it comfortably holds its ground.

[hasbot]

I'm not sure why you think that is remarkable. My daily driver is a homebrew PC that I put together myself (the second PC I've ever built). It can't be upgraded to Windows 11 but runs Windows 11 fine, runs all modern software fine including games though only at the lowest graphics setting.

[larsrc]

We just got a new Mac as our fourteen year old iMac is not getting Chrome security updates any more. Otherwise runs fine. Kudos to Apple there.

[Tarsul]

yeah but on the other hand a perfectly fine ipad mini from 2012 is basically unusable since 2017 or so because you cannot use most apps anymore since you cannot update the OS anymore and old versions of apps are depreciated.