[Nevermark]

Tiny Kagi has already shown an ability to produce better results than massive Google, despite them both dealing with the same SEO site gaming/structuring. Which is the reverse of what would be expected if Google's greater resources were also focused on quality.

Kagi already dodges the SEO bullet.

Disclaimer: I pay for Kagi. You should too!

[laserbeam]

If the userbase grows enough (let's say 100x that of today), they could become an SEO target. As happy as I am with the current results I am aware that SEO gaming is only a problem once scale is relevant. Once there are teams of people reverse engineering kagi's ranking explicitly wanting to beat it.

There's a good chance not enough people are willing to pay for search and this never becomes a problem.

Disclaimer: happy paying customer.

[janfoeh]

Paying Kagi customer here as well.

Kagi is leagues better than now-Google. It is about on par, slightly worse than the Google of yore — not by their own fault, but because they operate in a much more professionalized, difficult, hostile web.

They didn't dodge the SEO bullet — nobody has aimed at them yet.

[nicce]

> the same SEO site gaming/structuring.

This isn’t totally true. They can dodge a lot of stuff, because optimisations target Google’s algorithms, not Kagis. And Google also has conflicting intrests on same cases to let them just be.

I have paid for long time as well. But this brings new ”attack vector”, which is important to consider.