[ryandrake]

I do my hobby projects in Objective C (and C++). It still does everything I need it to. Have not had a job programming iOS or macOS projects for a long time, so not sure what I'd use there. Maybe the industry has moved on from me. My impression of Swift is that it's fine but doesn't offer much that is worth the effort of learning and mastering it to the point of proficiency. If Apple suddenly deprecated/removed it, I'd probably just stop programming for their ecosystem.