[michaelt]

I'd never buy a smart TV myself.

But to be fair to TV manufacturers, if you're selling a 4K TV - you need buyers to be able to get 4K content on it.

And you've got to be a rocket scientist to get 4K video from Netflix, because of all the DRM you have to navigate. Remove the smart TV functions and 90% of customers would probably end up only getting 720p because they sacrificed a chicken instead of a swan and got their graphics card blessed by a priest and an imam but not a rabbi too.

[sonicanatidae]

Just don't connect the SmartTV to the network. I use mine as a monitor on my HTPC and it works fine. The firmware is about 9 years old and counting. ;)

[psunavy03]

This is easy to say until the providers start playing DRM fuck-fuck games and you can't get an HD/UHD feed. I gave up using my HTPC and just started using the TV apps because the HDCP troubleshooting was just getting too painful.

[justsomehnguy]

Never had a problem with a content from "High Seas Entertainment(r)(tm)"

[sonicanatidae]

Neither have I. I mainly experience issues when I'm stupid enough to over-pay for some kind of media.

[sonicanatidae]

I'm IT, so managing the HTPC is a bit of nothing to me. Setup a wireless kbd w/ trackpad and it's off.

Once they start locking basic functions behind garbage like that, I'll roll to a large monitor or projector.

What will never happen is me buying a TV, then ceding control of said device to the manuf. They can fuck right off with that invasive garbage.

YMMV.

[psunavy03]

HDCP and walled-garden shenanigans are already an issue. Amazon Prime won't do 4k on PCs. I've run an HTPC for years, and still got forced into their ecosystem because the only way I could get UHD was through their damn smart TV app.

[johnnyanmac]

Tech communities can get a bit overzealous with this, but this is definitely one of the situations where I'd just pirate. They are giving me an inferior service due to discrimination of devices that are 4k-capable, and on top if that they increased prices and added ads late last year. They aren't even trying to earn my subscription.

[sonicanatidae]

They aren't trying to earn your subscription. The model is lack of choice, so you're forced into someone's shitty ecosystem.

I'm with you. Arrrrgggg, matey.

[sonicanatidae]

Yeah, thats why I don't use streaming services much. My partner likes Netflix and that's cool, but until they stop treating the customer like a burden after they paid a fee for a service, I'll continue to sail the high seas.

[coin]

> Just don't connect the SmartTV to the network

They will one day have cellular modems so they can phone without your permission

[sonicanatidae]

You've just defined the day where I build a fucking Faraday cage around my TV.

You don't understand the level of "Fuck these people and their invasive shit" that I'm will to go to.. lol

[w-ll]

Side topic on Faraday cages. I have an elevator in the middle of my building, inside is all steal panels, again in the middle of a big building, and I still get cell service. Can talk on my phone up/down the entire time.?

I thought it would be a Faraday cage and cut that out?

[sonicanatidae]

A true Faraday cage would kill the signals. I suspect that wasn't designed as a Faraday cage. It's an elevator.

There could also be a cellular extender inside the building. I happen to work in a building with LOTS of materials that block signals from the outside. The windows are bulletproof, the walls contain metal plates, etc.

We have to use a cellular extender to get cell signal inside, however, the building wasn't designed as a Faraday cage. It just happens to hamper signals in a similar way.