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So your issue is with the quality of the firmware on the devices and not the fact that it is a camera in a private place which is connected to the internet?

I agree with everything you're saying, but you may be overstating security patches. Until recently, most Android phones only had a few years of security updates.

I guess what I'm getting at is that if I truly believed in keeping Internet connected cameras outside of private areas I wouldn't have a smart phone at all.

The problem with Teslas wasn't the firmware on the cameras, but rather the infrastructure behind it. Ideally the data would be encrypted on servers and decrypted locally when needed. This doesn't pair nicely with services that perform analytics on video streams, of course, but it's a better option for privacy.

At the end of the day I share your concerns, and I want only devices which are controlled locally. I have been making efforts to make this a reality.

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> So your issue is with the quality of the firmware on the devices and not the fact that it is a camera in a private place which is connected to the internet?

I'm just making a distinction between "connected to the internet" and "streaming private data to the cloud 24/7".

Most of us use a smartphone under the assumption that nobody else has access to it, and that it's not going to send all of our data to some cloud. If someone gains that kind of access to my device, I'll have bigger problems to worry about than someone listening to my conversations, like locking down bank accounts, investment accounts and changing dozens of passwords.

> Until recently, most Android phones only had a few years of security updates.

Tell me about it, I begrudgingly buy a new device when the old one runs out of security updates. I'm not a fan of Samsung or Pixel line (which now offer longer support) so I was planning to switch to an iPhone after my current Android device is made obsolete, but I changed my mind with Apple's latest EU meltdown.