[addicted]

> There's 1.5 billion iPhone users vs 100 million Mac users

It’s beyond hilarious, after years of seeing Apple users fight back against the idea that the Mac’s better security relative to windows Windows has anything to do with its smaller user base, to see Apple users insist that the Mac’s smaller user base relative to the iPhone is what makes it more secure.

[robenkleene]

I don't really understand your argument, e.g., "seeing Apple users fight back against the idea that the Mac’s better security relative to windows Windows has anything to do with its smaller user base".

Are you saying there was some dispute between where folks were saying Mac's tigher security someone made the platform less popular? I've never heard this. (Also for the record, I personally wouldn't make any case about Mac's security being better than Windows.)

Also side point, I said this is what Apple believes, not "Apple users". I.e., I don't think anyone cares what I think, but Apple behavior on a number of fronts points to Apple believing this (e.g., sandboxing in Mac App Store, reading between the lines of the App Store restrictions, notarization).

[stetrain]

Those are probably different groups of people. I'll definitely agree that the Mac would see more security issues if it had the install base of Windows or iOS.

[addicted]

They’re a lot of the same people.

John Gruber for example used to rail against the Security by Obscurity argument (correctly, IMO), but makes the same security by obscurity argument today.