[niallsaccount]

'Up to 60k a year' is middle class?

Does that make plumbers middle class, as they earn above that?

Personally I think middle class would be around £80-150k. (I know its not all based on salary.)

According to the BOE calculator[1] 50k in 2000 is 90k nowadays.

I think this country has a Freddo issue on wages and what certain demographic grew up with seems to be what society accepts.

Minimum wage is 23k, with an average UK wage of 28k. In ~10 years most people are going to be on minimum. Even some of the middle class according to this article (30k).

[1]: https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/monetary-policy/inflation/in...

[betaby]

Middle class by modern definition in the middle 1/3 band of the income distribution, no?

[niallsaccount]

Nah, not for me.

Working class is the majority of people, maybe something like 3/5ths. Then middle and uppers are pretty tiny (not many royals/lords).

But there's lots of markers of middle class not just money.

[betaby]

Perhaps. But than that means what working class of 80s were able to afford homes/flats and now does not.

[globular-toast]

It's interesting. What does "middle class" really mean? For me it means something like "can comfortably afford nice things, but still has work". £60k/year would seem to qualify for that.

[contextnavidad]

You're a little off on the average UK wage. It's around £34k now.

[niallsaccount]

Ah thanks, yeah a bit off, I hadn't looked for a while.

[retrac98]

"Freddo issue" is such a perfect description.