[bluenomatterwho]

> Russia isn't where Russian is spoken, it's where the 1991 borders are.

There are ethnic Russians who lost family in the Euromaidan incident who may disagree with that. They also didn't appreciate having a Georgian installed by the west. But what do they know? Clearly you and Victoria Nuland know better!

> Again, who cares? Are you saying Russia was "provoked"? By Ukraine?

The fighting went on after the western-backed color revolutions, with many Russians dying inside of that 1991 Russian border. So provoked by Ukraine? Not exactly. More poignantly, Russia was provoked by PNAC heavyweights like Nuland. If you don't know about this I don't think anyone is going to take you seriously, whether you support that Bush/Wolfowitz doctrine or not. Clearly you do, whether you know it or not. That is yes, by definition, antagonistic toward Russia, regardless of what Russian speaking Russians on whatever side of the border want.

[khokhol]

If you don't know about [the Nuland mastermind theory]

Or we know all about it, and that it's total bunk.

[bluenomatterwho]

You're right, there are flaws with the neoconservative Wolfowitz doctrine.