| thanks for the analysis :) I do not use and know good web apps in the application sense, in plenty of comments I argued it is the tech of the future because web designers are mainly not real programmers and hence bad in app programming. I mentioned hover (I did not write it) as an example that was in my mind that they asked us years back whether we needed a mobile app or is it enough to have responsive website. I am the opposite of power user of mobiles, I do everything on linux desktop, I hate 99% of websites. So now I "installed" hover again on my phone because I already de-installed it. It was 5 sec, I got a button, I pressed it, and signed in with my pass manager, having an authenticator app activated it was still a breeze. Most websites would have already lost me... There I have a feeling of a website but I see everything clearly and I can use it effectively, change things, pay things etc. One thing that was annoying in the 2 minute test of mine is that a seemingly button like thing did not work, you had to click on the text which I smiled at. For usability it was 8/10 for me which is great because most sites are 0-4... This site demonstrates not that it is a web app in the greatness sense but that there are so many things you do not need a native mobile app for, thanks to the web which can deliver usable standalone UX even from traditional web designers (hover engineers seem to be clever minimalistic web designers, not really modern web app programmers). What I can tell you, that good web programming is totally possible, it is a question of modern js, modern web api (so that you do not have to write things in js just call c++ or rust code that is implemented by very capable native app engineers), V8 optimization, most importantly good future web programmers vs. bad current web designers. Yes, hover makes 70 requests, 5 mb on first load, it is an old school website but still works for me, even on mobile. It is not a bombastic app but capable to become a standalone UX on mobile (aka app) where I can easily use it for the use cases there are in the web domain management domain of services :) Sorry but I do not really know actually what your point is. In a year or so you can take a look at my site, it will be the best web app you have ever seen. It is totally possible. If you wish I write you a c++ app that you want to die after using it and it will so bloated importing 10 million libraries that I actually never use that the compiler needs over a minute :) Still great performant c++ apps are possible. Tell me your angle. Are you a native app developer for mobile and you fear learning new things? Even if you invested a lot in coding in a language, I think 95% what your actual market value or knowledge is not the concrete language skill but years of programming experience. In addition, you can use webassembly for c++ code, on the backend you can use normal strongly typed native languages, the web is beautiful, complex but beautiful. What you see on current websites is a horror. In a way on hover.com too but usability is ok. |
Literally nothing about this is old school. Not single thing. It's a simple page with text information on it. It needs exactly three requests: HTML, CSS, and a few kilobytes of Javascript for the minor interactive functionality it has.
Because yes "inherently nothing is bloated". An yet this website requires 2.5 megabytes of Javascript to display a few kilobytes of text, and you offer this as an example of "minimalist website that is not bloated" or something.
> What I can tell you, that good web programming is totally possible
Yes, it's possible. And yet everywhere you turn you see bloated websites.
> Sorry but I do not really know actually what your point is
I think I've stated it loud and clear, and didn't hide behind several pages of demagoguery about the state of the world and possibilities and what not.
> Tell me your angle. Are you a native app developer for mobile and you fear learning new things?
1. What does this have to do with my questions?
2. What exactly in my questions prompted you to stoop down to ad hominem?
> good web programming is totally possible
> modern js, modern web api, V8 optimization
> you can use webassembly for c++ code
> What you see on current websites is a horror
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