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by lukan 852 days ago
"I reckon if you want to eat meat still you should mostly be eating chicken. "

But favorably chicken that has seen the sun and real soil to pick in, not only on the way to the slaughterhouse.

And there is nothing inheritently wrong with fishing, it is just that the way it is usually done, is quite horrific. But there is somewhat certified ethical fishing. Or local fishermen.

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The massive problem with fishing is that the fish are wild. They need to get replaced by nature. You can’t scale up the operation. Add to that pollution, warming seas, and you’re disturbing a system way too much.

What’s the plan once the oceans are messed up permanently?

At this moment, I think factory farmed chicken would have less impact on the environment.

The oceans are huge.

When you are not overfishing and destroying the ground with bad trawling, where is the problem?

(But yes, it is a problem, that both is done)

The oceans warming is a separate problem.

And I like fish as well as chicken as well as beef. But I don't have to eat it every day.

At this point wouldn’t it be easier to artificially select for traits that make the chicken mind more tolerant of poor conditions? Like if we can have consciousless chicken then it wouldn’t matter the condition they grow under?
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy has you covered here, with sentient cows engineered to be ecstatic about the thought of being killed for meat.
This seems problematic in a different way.
It sounds way easier, to continue to pretend, that animals don't have feelings. And in general not know too much of the meat factories. Which is why many people choose this approach.

Also like the sibling comment said, not really possible with our tech and knowledge. Lab grown meat would be the way to go to achieve it.

That is one heck of a story. Salient to discussion about consciousness: to what extent does the ability to act like awareness, count as awareness for the purposes of outside observers?
This guy is way ahead of you: https://www.wired.com/2012/02/headless-chicken-solution/

I imagine the meat would be pretty tasteless though.

You would need a clearer working model of consciousnes to be able to know whether your efforts were succeeding. But this is the idea behind lab-grown meat, just don't grow the brain at all and you don't have to worry as much.