[vdaea]

Looks like Orange created something called "IDMP platform" (didn't find anything about it online) and used a library called Lasso that is licenced under the infectious GPL without releasing the source code to the "IDMP platform"

[Karellen]

Liblasso is also available under a commercial license from the copyright holder.

If Orange wanted a commercial license, there doesn't appear to be any reason why it couldn't have bought one.

https://lasso.entrouvert.org/

https://www.entrouvert.com/expertise/licences/

[wazoox]

Or alternatively, buying a proprietary license from Entr'Ouvert. The court finally recognized the authors' purpose with the licensing model and validated it, that's really good news.

[jojobas]

> infectious

Self-inflicted.

[vdaea]

Definitely - I did not mean "infectious" in a disparaging way, since that's what the licence was written for. If you include GPL code, the licence "infects" everything around it.

[actionfromafar]

The infection meme is very good to easily explain how GPL works - but it does "infect" only if you follow the license terms.

If you do not follow the license terms, you are using a copyrighted work without permission. And then, we are back to plain copyright law, with potential damages being awarded etc. (And the copyright owner is under no obligation to let the past infraction slip just because the violating party decides to suddenly follow the GPL terms.)

[jojobas]

>And the copyright owner is under no obligation to let the past infraction slip just because the violating party decides to suddenly follow the GPL terms.

The owner might not, the court might. Proving damages from tardy publishing of source code would be tedious (at least in the EU). In this case they used their proprietary license option to justify the damages, which doesn't exist for a lot of software.

[actionfromafar]

Yes, that is a very good point. To be awarded monetary damages, you have to make a case for it. In practice, I think a lot of companies wouldn't want to find out and try to settle in private instead.

In this case as you say, they had a proprietary license, so I guess the bottom floor for damages is the same price as a proprietary license. But I could from my complete layman perspective imagine damages to reputation, decreased likelyhood of getting new proprietary sales in the future if companies can ignore the licensing terms with impunity etc?