[google234123]

Western companies have been basically shut out of the Chinese market since the beginning-even more is now. A huge trade imbalance should have naturally balanced itself out in a true free market. The fact it’s been so distorted for decades shows how bad it is. A rebalancing must occur and will be good for everyone in the long run

Chinese policy making has been hugely protectionist and interventions lost for decades.

[aurareturn]

  Western companies have been basically shut out of the Chinese market since the beginning-even more is now.

Sometimes I wonder what people actually read to write something like that.

China is Mercedes' biggest market. Audi sells more cars in China than in all of Europe. Tesla is one of the top EV sellers in China.

It's actually the US who has shut off China's access to the US car market.

[google234123]

You mean “ Beijing Benz” which is owned 51% by china and makes their own cars too using the tech taken from Mercedes?

[robin_reala]

Not sure that’s entirely true, especially if we’re talking cars. Volkswagen China is around 50% of VW sales, and Mercedes sells 40+% in China for example. If we’re talking US cars, they’re typically too focused on US market desires for other countries.

[google234123]

With mandatory transfers of all technology and giving up 51% ownership of the forced joint ventures?

[aurareturn]

Don't move the goal post.

[google234123]

Again, it’s not Mercedes selling cars in China. It’s some joint venture that’s majority owned by the Chinese that has forcibly taken Mercedes tech and has made millions of cars using it. You can’t compare a Mercedes in the USA and China and say they are equivalent

[rodgerd]

Chicken tax.

[google234123]

So...? Tariffs are just like subsidies or taxes, a transfer of money between one sector and another sector in the economy