[nemo44x]

Just because I have a car doesn’t mean I intend to drive it in the city. There’s a whole world out there and a lot to do that requires a car. So if I live by a train that’s good for commuting to the city I’m now stuck only doing that? What about the many things I do that have nothing to do with that?

[zozbot234]

You can keep your car parked elsewhere and get to it via a folding bike or stand-up scooter.

[nemo44x]

What about all the things I have to haul? What if I don’t want to ride a bike or the weather is bad?

What if I have kids? There’s a million reasons your solution is awful.

[tekla]

> What about all the things I have to haul?

Rent a car. Millions of people do it just fine

> What if I don’t want to ride a bike

Deal with it

> the weather is bad

Deal with it

> What if I have kids

Kids ride bikes just fine.

[nemo44x]

I should rent a car multiple times every week? No thank you.

I don’t think people with infants and toddlers expect them to ride a bike. Taking kids around to their clubs and sports, etc isn’t practical.

I’m happy almost no one thinks like you do. You sound miserable. I hope you recover.

[acdha]

> I don’t think people with infants and toddlers expect them to ride a bike. Taking kids around to their clubs and sports, etc isn’t practical.

Tons of parents around here use cargo bikes - my son went to daycare ~5 miles away on the back of mine and still hops on the back for longer trips in grade school. With e-assist it’s faster than driving, way less stressful and expensive, and the difference is that kids love getting on bikes in a way that they don’t riding in cars because they can see so much more of the world.

[shiroiushi]

>I don’t think people with infants and toddlers expect them to ride a bike. Taking kids around to their clubs and sports, etc isn’t practical.

Obviously, you've never been to Japan. I see infants and toddlers on (their parents') bikes all the time. Parents regularly carry 2 kids on a bike with them.

[tekla]

I'm happy I was not raised sheltered like you.

[zozbot234]

Oh yes, cargo bikes are a thing too. And people do ride bikes in bad weather, especially in a place like Berkeley.