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by sensanaty 853 days ago
I now live in the Netherlands but spent some time in SF, and the problem really is just horrifically bad public transport options over there.

Sure, the US is a bit different in that getting to other cities is more difficult without a car, that's definitely true. However within the city itself? My building has dedicated parking spaces for the residents - as in you can't even get into the garage if you don't have a keyfob that opens the garage doors - and of the neighbours I'm acquainted with, people avoid taking their cars as much as possible. And this isn't due to congestion or whatever, cycling or taking a train/bus/metro is just cheaper & more convenient if we're talking within the Netherlands.

My favorite anecdote about a country getting rid of car infrastructure is actually in the city I live in now, Utrecht, where they replaced a highway with a canal [1], and right now Amsterdam has an initiative to bring the number of cars down drastically. They're getting rid of parking spaces in favor of better, human-friendly spaces, small gardens and things of that variety. There's similar initiatives across the whole country, and they've all worked out pretty amazingly in terms of QoL for people.

The US has a planning issue where life is unlivable unless you drive everywhere, but there's no reason for major cities like SF to have this issue if the people in charge really gave a shit. Having good public transportation is an easily attainable goal for cities with so many resources, yet it keeps getting fucked over by car-centric infrastructure.

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/utrecht-restor...

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Life is a lot more than cities and traveling between them. The USA has a vast array of things not in it even close to cities. The USA is vast and beautiful and many people like to explore our nature, parks, etc, etc.
Realistically what's the proportion of car use between going to/from work (or the grocery store or other similar destinations) vs traveling the country for your average USAian? Especially one living in a dense metro area of some kind? And even then, I'm not saying we get rid of all cars, just that owning one shouldn't be a necessity in a massive, dense metropolitan area in order to get from point A to point B.

I own a car myself and use it regularly for longer road trips the few times of year I do that, but I avoid using my car like the plague if I'm traveling within 90% of the Netherlands.

Indeed, which is why every home should be forced to build a helipad.
Hilversum here (envious of utrecht) - I wish I hadn't needed to leave the US to live somewhere nice for me.