[KAdot]

> After discovering Chrome are eating my old Mac's battery, I turned to using Edge

What? Have they tried using Safari instead of a Chromium based browser? From my experience Safari is by far the best browser on Mac in terms of the energy efficiency.

[sgt]

And also now arguably the best browser in terms of the standards, after hiring most of the w3c team.

[ajross]

I think that argument falls down in the face of the PWA mess in Europe. Standards-based application platforms, to Apple, are at best, a means to an end. And they'll throw them out the second they perceive them in competition with native apps. It's the same recipe followed by MS in the 90's.

[samatman]

macOS and iOS are different programs.

[ajross]

Run by the same management. I think an argument of the form "OK, they're trying to kill browser apps on iOS but clearly they love standards and would never do that on a Mac" is unpersuasive.

[samatman]

People have been making dire predictions that macOS will get locked down like iOS since the days when it was called iPhone OS. Not a single step down that slippery slope has ever occurred.

But hey, keep preaching doom, if it entertains you. Just don't expect other people to take you seriously, given the track record.

[ajross]

If on Monday of last week someone had predicted Apple would kill off web apps on iOS, you'd have surely given exactly the same response. And so on Saturday, now they they have, I find that unpersuasive. Make that of it what you will. One person's "preaching doom" is another's "reasoning from evidence".

[lijok]

I switched from FF to Safari to try it out a few weeks ago and the fact I can't click Command+D when I'm on a page I've bookmarked, to remove the bookmark, is killing me.

Other than that, it's been great.

[Guillaume86]

He does front end dev.

[OJFord]

Aside from testing multiple browsers, that'd make me think you want Chrome or Firefox primarily, if any difference at all they probably have best/most tooling?

[jwells89]

All of the Chrome-clones (Edge, Vivaldi, Opera, Arc, etc) have identical dev tooling and extension support because they’re all just Chrome with mostly-surface-level tweaks applied.

[OJFord]

I didn't realise Edge was such. Why would it make any significant difference to energy usage then?

[hollerith]

"Identical extension support" is untrue: Brave is a Chrome clone, and it intends to keep supporting manifest v2.

[timeon]

If you test for Safari+Firefox it would probably work in chrome as well.