[beeboobaa]

I'm asking a question.

Here's another one for you: Do you believe that all pictures you have ever taken, all emails you have ever written, all code you have ever written could be posted here on this forum to improve someone else's software system?

If so, could you go ahead and post that zip? I'd like to ingest it in my model.

[timschmidt]

Your question seems orthogonal to the situation. The three files posted seem to be the minimum amount of information required to reproduce the bug. Fair use encompasses a LOT of uses of otherwise copyrighted work, and this seems clearly to be one.

[beeboobaa]

I don't see how publicly posting them on a forum is

> the minimum amount of information required to reproduce the bug

MAYBE if they had communicated privately that'd be an argument that made sense.

[timschmidt]

So you don't think that software development which happens in public web forums deserve fair use protection?

[beeboobaa]

That's an interesting way to frame "publicly posted someone else's data without their consent for anyone to see and download"

[timschmidt]

I notice you're so invested that you haven't noticed that the files have been renamed and zipped such that they're not even indexable. How you'd expect anyone not participating in software development to find them is yet to be explained.

[jdiff]

It's three files that were scraped from (and so publicly available on) the web. That's not at all similar to your strawful analogy.

[timschmidt]

I'm over here trying to fathom the lack of control over one's own life it would take to cause someone to turn into an online copyright cop, when the data in question isn't even their own, is clearly divorced from any context which would make it useful for anything other than fixing the bug, and about which the original copyright holder hasn't complained.

Some people just want to argue.

If the copyright holder has a problem with the use, they are perfectly entitled to spend some of their dollar bills to file a law suit, as part of which the contents of the files can be entered into the public record for all to legally access, as was done with Scientology.

I don't expect anyone would be so daft.

[beeboobaa]

Literally just asked a question and that seems to have set you off, bud. Are you alright? Do you need to feed your LLM more data to keep it happy?

[timschmidt]

I'm always happy to stand up for folks who make things over people who want to police them. Especially when nothing wrong has happened. Maybe take a walk and get some fresh air?

[_a_a_a_]

I share your distaste for people whose only contribution is subtraction but suggest you lay off the sarcasm though. Trolls; don't feed. (Well done on your project BTW)

[timschmidt]

I don't see any sarcasm from me in the thread. I had serious questions. Perhaps you could point out what you see? Thanks for the supportive words about the project.

[beeboobaa]

You're so brave

[timschmidt]

Thanks!