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by Erratic6576 855 days ago
For me, it’s not only the price you pay. Having a username attached to each your searches is the opposite of privacy, no matter how much you trust their legalese wording
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I go the opposite way. I trust a company that takes my money to pay its costs to keep my privacy. As opposed to a company who "doesn't know who I am". (Apart from unique fingerprint https://amiunique.org/ over many queries over many months)
I thought modern browsers were supposed to resist finger printing? This website is slightly horrifying.
They try to. But every time a browser gets better at existing methods, it also gains new features which become new methods of identification. The web browser environment is broken. And if you get to fight it by using something with better protection, you're only exposing yourself more because no other users do the same thing.
You thought wrong, fingerprinting is impossible to resist.
99% of people are probably signed into a google account when they search google. If you want the sort of privacy you seem to want, stick to the dark web and similarly inconvenient tools.

To maintain your level of privacy requires a drastically different lifestyle than most of us have or want.

>To maintain your level of privacy

They didn't state anything about their desired level of privacy other than not wanting a username attached to every search. That's not equivalent to needing to use TOR for every search.

>99% of people are probably signed into a google account when they search google

What is the relevance of this statement? Obviously this wouldn't apply to the parent poster, it doesn't refute anything the parent said, and at least anecdotally it's not true at all.

>If you want the sort of privacy you seem to want, stick to the dark web and similarly inconvenient tools.

Privacy is a spectrum, not some binary choice between having a username (and often real name) attached to every search vs. using the dark web for every search. You can land somewhere in the middle, for example: "I don't want a username attached to every search".

There is no technical reason Kagi needs usernames, but they choose to require them. For some people, that points to the company not being as privacy-friendly as other people seem to think/claim.

I dont browse signed in to my Google account, which I barely use. But Google has an open account on each of us, even if we block their servers at the firewall level
A fresh incognito window on any other search engine isn't going to be linked to an account.

That is for me one of the downsides of Kagi.

You can easily set your search engine in private windows to DuckDuckGo, MetaGer or whatever you prefer.

Also, you probably are aware of this, but an incognito window won't magically stop trackers.

Oh well I don't assume I'm in anyway "anonymous" no matter if I got a username/ipadress/cookie/deep-state-monitoring attached to my searches. Things I html-POST to the web is no longer private.
That’s another reason not to pay for privacy
Go look at MetaGer, they solved that issue