Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by sydd 861 days ago
> Art can become a craft again, not a career

The issue is that those jobs that got automated to "become a craft again" have mostly vanished, except for high-end stuff. Some examples: shoe making, artisan furniture, tailors, watchmakers. Unless you are the best of the best these are hobbies now not something you make money from.

Nowadays most people make money in bleak half-automated jobs (e.g. construction, factory workers) or in white collar jobs sitting in front of a computer in some cubicle doing some mind numbing task for a megacorp.

I'm usually hyped about technological advancement, but very bleak about AI. I think it will just bring more sublte propaganda for state actors, more subtle advertising for megacorps, the dieing of creative jobs like graphic artists or actors is just a sad sideeffect (these will still exist, but only as high end -- we will always have real AAA actors, but the days of extras on movie sets are counted -- lots of the Hollywood protests were because studios started doing contracts for noname actors that stated that the studio will regain rights of the actor's digital likeness)

3 comments

When is a time in history when everyone had really great jobs? Before the industrial revolution, you had most people doing subsistence farming. During the industrial revolution, you had 14 hour a day exploited laborers working in factories. Maybe there was a brief period after World War II where you had a large middle class with stable careers and affordable housing. That's not the norm for the millions of years of history of human evolution.
Ok, but like…that’s a bug, not a feature.
To me, this reflects a perfectionist mindset. Life is better today for billions of people than it has been at any other point in the history of the human species. If you consider it a "bug" that we don't live in some sort of utopia where everyone's dreams are fulfilled, maybe you need to change your expectations and view things in a larger historical perspective.
It is perfectly possible to see that we live in the best time humanity has ever lived in and be concerned that we’re are at risk of regressing. Especially with people claiming that any regression is simply not viewing things in a larger historical perspective.
The issue is that people are seeing progress as regression.
A micro$oft-backed megacorp hoovering up everyone else's work is not what I'd call progress.
Nope. People are concerned. There has been a million times when people recklessly and blindly did things without carefully examining the consequences leading to terrible results and human suffering. Some examples: DDT, Iraqi war, fast fashion, early usage of radioactive materials as medicine, asbestos, etc
> Some examples: shoe making, artisan furniture, tailors, watchmakers.

> Nowadays most people make money in bleak half-automated jobs (e.g. construction, factory workers) or in white collar jobs sitting in front of a computer in some cubicle doing some mind numbing task for a megacorp.

And all the while they enjoy abundance of shoes, furniture, clothes and watches with value/price ratio absurdly high by standards of most of human history.

Just wanna point out that making stuff is different from having stuff. Making your shoe is much different from buying a Nike from the store (and I don't make shoes ;) ).

The craft is an activity, kind of an art by itself. Many find it enjoyable.

The destination is the journey, dude!

It's a luxury journey that most people around the world simply can't afford. Modern world is a marvel because it feeds and clothes them. If they had to pay a market rate to the artisanal shoemaker, they would walk barefoot.
There's nothing "bleak" about building stuff with your hands. Many building trades workers like what they do. And they generally appreciate technology improvements because those tend to make the work safer and less physically demanding.

https://mikeroweworks.org/