[steelframe]

> But, for the type of person who just wants the car to stay the same as it was the day they bought it, and never change, it's not the vehicle for them.

I never said I didn't want updates. What I said is that I want to understand what the updates are and then choose to upgrade or downgrade when and how I see fit. Or better yet make the updates OSS and then let me do my own builds with the features and functionality I prefer as they are developed.

One thing that is right is that a Rivian is not for me, for a lot of additional reasons.

[kelp]

I wasn't trying to suggest what you personally want or don't want. Just that I could see how some people do not want their car interface to change, or even ride quality to change.