[wilg]

This is a terrible argument against cars. You could say the same for a train, let's waste energy carrying around 1,500,000 pounds of train to move around 120,000 pounds of passengers.

[burnished]

Except your example makes it clear that a train is a way better deal

[wilg]

No because it's not a problem for things to be heavy.

[esalman]

You need lot more lbs of cars to move 120k lbs of passengers, that's the argument in favor of trains.

[wilg]

Yeah about twice as much. But it's still a bad argument because pounds don't really matter.

[esalman]

Yes, infrastructure is more more important, and railway infrastructure is much more sustainable to maintain in long term.

[wilg]

Unrelated gibberish

[esalman]

If you live at a place with decent public transport, you'll ditch cars first thing. That's the biggest argument against cars.

[wilg]

I agree there are better arguments. My point was that the specific argument I was replying to was bad.