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by paxys 852 days ago
> A fast 2TB NVMe drive can be had for ~$130

Not if the drive is soldered to the motherboard..

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With thin laptops you can maybe justify that as a necessary compromise for the form factor, but there's no good reason the Mac Studio shouldn't have a hatch on the bottom with two or three M.2 2280 slots inside.

You can put your own PCIe SSDs in the Mac Pro, but that's so wildly marked up compared to an equivalently specced Mac Studio that it probably cancels out any savings.

I remain flabbergasted that there's no model of Mac Mini or Studio which has M.2 slots. I believe the Doctrine is that Thunderbolt is fast enough that YAGNI but that's absurd given the amount of open space inside those things. If you look at a picture of the motherboard[0] it's dead obvious that there's room for one M.2, maybe two if they cared about it.

[0]: https://www.ifixit.com/News/57898/mac-studio-teardown

Thunderbolt is decently fast but the enclosures don't come cheap, it's an extra $100 or so per drive you want to hook up. The enclosure could easily cost as much as the drive you put in it nowadays.
>there's no good reason

There is: Not wanting to support end-user modified products.

Apple is never shorthanded on white knights, but more generally I can see why companies might opt to lock out customer modifications under practical pretexts.

That's their prerogative but I'm not spending thousands of dollars to be treated like a child who can't operate a screwdriver.

Hell, I'm sure they could make it a tool-less operation if they wanted to.

A PCIe/NVME adapter costs $10 on Amazon.
To USB you mean? The cheap ones only do 10gbps, not even a quarter of the speed a PCIe4 drive is capable of. 40gbps adapters are up in the ~$100 range.
The description[0] states: "Compliant with PCIE 4.0 X4 80Gbps full speed support." But I suppose it could be inaccurate.

[0] https://www.amazon.com/M-2-Adapter-Aluminum-Heatsink-Solutio...

Oh, that type of adapter. Those work but they'll only fit in the Mac Pro, which has a $3000 premium over a Mac Studio with exactly the same specs, so you're unlikely to come out ahead there.
Sorry, I realized I misread your previous comment. I thought you were saying the markup on a PCIe drive for the Mac Pro was too high. Now I understand you were referring to the markup on the Mac Pro itself.
Why would soldering it cost so much more?
I believe the parent is saying that Apple can charge more because the consumer has no feasible way to replace it themselves after purchase.