[pwb25]

wow you are right, they have 3,5%. I thought they had like 25-30%. Safari had 18% apparently, I know 0 people who use Safari

[aleph_minus_one]

> wow you are right, they have 3,5%

It depends a lot on the country. In Germany, Firefox' market share is larger since Firefox is viewed as the browser that takes the users' privacy concerns (e.g. tracking, DRM (there still exists Firefox EME-free), ..) most seriously.

According to

> https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/desktop/germ...

Firefox' market share is about 18.6 % among the desktop users in Germany, i.e. among the desktop browsers, Firefox has the 2nd largest market share in Germany (for all platforms: according to

> https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share/all/germany

in Germany, Firefox' market share is currently about 10.4 %).

[pwb25]

That explains things, I in fact work as a programmer in germany :)

They even have ads on the subway here

[alemanek]

You don’t know anyone who uses an iPhone to browse the web?

Pretty sure that is where that Safari market share comes from.

[aleph_minus_one]

> You don’t know anyone who uses an iPhone to browse the web?

What you write as a joke is in my opinion not one: when I consider the department hallway in the office where I work at (not tech sector), you will, I think, only find 2 iPhone owners among about 25 people. One of these iPhone owners is the boss, and the other one is a programmer who vocal about not liking Android.

So, depending on your surroundings, it is quite possible that seeing iPhones or iPhone owners is actually a somewhat rare event.

[anomaly_]

You’re in an emerging market I’d guess. iPhones make up 90%+ of the high value mobile user market.

[pwb25]

I work in Germany and I don't know any friend with an iPhone. Of course they exist, but it's a general a disliked phone here for engineers

[JohnFen]

I'm not in an emerging market. I'm in the US. Of all the people I know, only 3 use iPhones. I rarely see them in the wild, either.

My understanding is that iPhone usage varies wildly between regions of the US. I know that when I go to some areas, I see them everywhere and in other areas, almost never.

[aleph_minus_one]

> You’re in an emerging market I’d guess.

You are wrong.

Just today, a colleague boasted that he recently bought a new Samsung Android phone and paid about 1500 euro for it (I guess he bought a Samsung Galaxy S24); this is likely more expensive than an iPhone.

But what I rather wanted to tell with my comment above is depending on your surroundings, it can be a very common situation that iPhone fans/users are a small minority.

[pwb25]

Except for my mother and sister, actually not no. But I meant on a computer

[alemanek]

I know I was meaning that more as a joke but that 18% number is almost certainly PC + Mobile. There is no way desktop Safari has 18% market share. MacOS market share is likely less than 18%

[Tagbert]

Isn’t that because it includes mobile which is heavily incumbent oriented. I think the FF share on desktop is higher.

[perilunar]

iOS is about ~30% of the global mobile market and ~60% of the US market, and most iOS users use Safari as their browser. So you probably do know people who use Safari.

[pwb25]

yes, I thought it was on computers also since as you say all mobiles comes with a default browser so the stats are quite pointless because you could just count the amount of androids and iphones and other phones