[medimikka]

It indicates, that he has sold a solution. It neither indicates that this solution is used[1], nor that those solutions are used for diagnostics.

And if Chinese single-individual solutions with gamer nicknames don't worry you, someone who frequents Hacker News and is probably not dumb, I understand many of the issues we have with medicine and medical communication much better. I'm sure you're confident that you, or a loved one, will be correctly diagnosed by this thing. I am not.

[1]: these hospitals are conglomerate hospitals who will buy things to try them out. I have dozens of bullshit solutions my bosses bought in storage. Why do you think you're getting raked over the coals for every small issue? Why do you think health care in the US is that expensive)

[eighto]

Thanks for your insights and sharing your expertise. I found it interesting to learn that these hospitals will purchase a solution just to test it out, possibly to then just shelve it. If that's what's happened here it seems quite dishonest of the author to imply that his software is being used there in actual clinical practice.

[coolwulf]

NeuralRad is being used during the clinic practice workflow at the moment. The platform currently is not FDA 510k cleared so we had to establish an IRB with the clinics which are building the platform into their clinical workflow.

[alwa]

You’re handling all the skepticism and hostility here with much more grace than I would be able to. I admire your tenacity and the scope of your effort-your hacker ethos, as it were.

I understand why the audience’s instinct is to judge you by the standards they’d judge a clinician or a formal medical device manufacturer, in that history of medical tech is littered with examples of well-meaning engineering efforts unintentionally causing harm.

As a counterbalance, though, I’d like to speak to the charitable interpretation: after all, how many times have I as a tech guy relied on practitioners in other fields to tell me what they could use, and whether what I built was helping them? It seems like you’re being judged on your skills as a practicing oncologist or full-scale US-market medical device manufacturer, when maybe a more fair frame might be that of a person who tries to help professionals whose work they admire by building tools they ask for.

I feel like just as it’s somebody else’s job to know how to doctor cancer, it will be somebody else’s job to prove that the tech is safe and appropriate to commercialize or popularize (what else is regulation for?).

From one person who likes making stuff to another person who makes stuff, though, I appreciate your good intentions, your creativity, and your follow through-and I admire your grace handling criticism here!

[hef19898]

Welly he is working at the point where clinicians and medical device manufacturers meet. Hence, those are the only standards to measure against.

If those standards are met, great, more power to NeuralRad. It just rubs some people wrong to market this in classic SV start-up fashion, using the latest, in this case AI, hype. It just rubs people in more serious industrues the wrong way sometimes. Which, by the way, is valid feedback for everyone on HN with a B2B start-up targeting clients in very mature and risk averse indistries.

[coolwulf]

Thank you!