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by latchkey 852 days ago
Performance for GPUs isn't just speed, but also power efficiency. The complexity of GPUs doesn't lend itself to just being solved with better tooling. They are also not going to get cheaper... especially the high end ones with tons of HBM3 memory.

Given that data centers only have so much power and AI really needs to be in the same data center as the data, if you can squeeze out a bit more power efficiency so you can fit more cards, you are getting gains there as well.

When I was mining ethereum, the guy who wrote the mining software used an oscilloscope to squeeze an an extra 5-10% out of our cards and that was after having used them for years. That translated to saving about 1 MW of power across all of our data centers.

Let me also remind you that GPUs are silicon snowflakes. No two perform exactly the same. They all require very specific individual tuning to get the best performance out of them. This tuning is not even at the software level, but actual changes to voltage/memory timings/clock speeds.

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You are right to worry about power efficiency. Though do keep in mind that power is also fungible with money, especially in a data centre.

I suspect a lot of AI inference (thought probably not the majority) will happen on mobile devices in the future. There power is also at a premium, and less fungible with money.

> Though do keep in mind that power is also fungible with money, especially in a data centre.

Untrue. I have filled 3 very large data centers where there was no more power to be had. Data centers are constrained by power. At some limit, you can't just spend more money to get more power.

It also becomes a cooling issue, the more power your GPUs consume, the more heat they generate, the more cooling that is required, the more power that is required for cooling. Often measured in PUE.

You are right about any given data centre in the short run.

But you can use money to rent more data centres.

Hate to break it to you. That is getting harder and harder. Certainly you can get a couple mw, but if you want 50, you are going to find that to be extremely challenging, if not impossible.
Are you saying people stopped building data centres?

You can also pay to get more data centres built.

The large ones being built today are spoken for already. That is how crazy the demand is right now. People aren't talking about it in the general news. They can't build them fast enough cause things like transformers, generators and cooling are all having supply issues.

Even still, power is limited. You can build DC's but if you can't power them... what are you going to do? This isn't just throw more money at the problem.

Have you noticed that data center stock, like EQIX, are at all time highs?