[flavius29663]

It can make sense. I come from a country(Romania) where fire regulations are insanely strict and complicated. If the fire department comes to inspect, they will 100% find issues and fine you. The result is that the most sane and basic requirements get drowned in a sea of useless regulations, so you end up with escape doors that are locked, missing alerting systems, flammable materials where there shouldn't be etc.

[ToucanLoucan]

I need a more detailed explanation of what you're suggesting here: I get that having too many regulations can create a situation where an inspector will always find fault, that makes sense: but unless inspectors have a cap on the number of issues they're allowed to report, which doesn't seem sane under any circumstance, why would that then cause more obvious basic regulations to be unenforced? If anything I would expect the opposite.

[flavius29663]

There are 2 things that happen: you bribe the firefighters(rarer), OR you just continue functioning without their signoff(more common).

Because most businesses were not compliant all of the sudden, the government couldn't just shut down everything, so they allow businesses and buildings to function without authorization, simply by filling in an affidavit saying you acknowledge firefighters didn't approve and you continue at your own risk. Even the capitol building, where the MPs "work" everyday, is without proper authorization! When you go to a nightclub, you don't know if they have an actual permit from the firefighters, or a mere affidavit...and you end up with disasters like https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colectiv_nightclub_fire

This whole situation made everyone very complacent with fire safety, to the point it's worse than if people and businesses would have been left alone.

[ToucanLoucan]

Holy fuck. That’s absolutely insane.

[flavius29663]

it is...the entirety of fire marshal and firefights laws being replaced by just 4-5 rules would save countless lives:

- build secondary escape doors and don't lock/block them

- have smoke detectors in every room

- have fire extinguishers in every building, and for large buildings for every 200sqm or so, and every floor.

For large commercial spaces, add sprinklers.

These are bare minimum things, but it would be better than what it's like today. And from there, they could slowly add more rules where it makes sense, and shutdown whoever is not implementing these.

[gbear605]

I can’t speak for Romania, but if the outcome of any mistake is that you get shutdown, there’s an implicit cap on how much you can get punished.