[krupan]

I'm pretty sure it was hacker news roughly 15 years ago that introduced me to Seth Godin. Or maybe it was Slashdot. Either way, there was a time when engineers were excited about starting businesses and were drinking up everything they could about marketing because we knew we sucked at it (and probably because PG told us to).

[asadotzler]

That time is not now. Now HN is half corporate boot lickers defending the status quo, like the temporarily embarrassed billionaires they are, while the other half are using HN as a political soap box to rail against San Francisco or the current federal administration or last year's HN icons who have since fallen off of the pedestals HN put them on.

It's become mostly a joke where perhaps 1 of 10 comments are insightful and hacker-y, the inverse of what it was 15 years ago when intellectual curiosity and, you know, hacking, were seen as more important than preening and demonstrations of social status.

HN is becoming Instagram or Twitter. It's nearly fully degraded to NextDoor levels of discussion.

[novok]

So what is the next HN?