[mc32]

We need normal schools that teach teachers like we used to. There are teachers who know less math than students and speak less than perfect English.

If you’re a teacher you should have some basic competency thresholds.

[SteveGerencser]

My wife (engineer) taught a class called 'Math for Teachers', which was designed to teach elementary school teachers basic math. Not how to teach it, just how to do basic math themselves. A significant number should have failed that class but the administration refused to allow her to fail teachers who were failing for 'reasons'.

She quit the job.

[mc32]

Absolutely what I observed as well with SF school teachers. Some were good and knew basic math and basic grade school English but a good number spoke and wrote like dropouts.