[Veserv]

You are arguing a meaningless point. The argument form takes what you hope humanity will become as a parameter. You extrapolate from there to determine under what circumstances humanity can become that desired future given the facts we have available.

If we assume that every intelligent species will turn the universe into goo within 10,000 years of achieving human-level technology, then that is only compatible with the fact that the universe is not currently goo under very limited circumstances. Again, I am not arguing that is the future or desirable, I am merely stating that if you believed that then you must also believe that we are also in one of those very limited set of circumstances. Otherwise you need to rethink your beliefs.

The analysis made in the article is: "Assume you want humanity to expand to the stars and that humanity is not special or unique in temperament so aliens will do so as well. Humanity can only come into existence under a limited set of parameters and there are only a limited set of parameters that explain the data we have available."

[bonzaidrinkingb]

> You are arguing a meaningless point.

> If we assume that every intelligent species will turn the universe into goo

The analysis made in the article is of similar bad form. If I am arguing a meaningless point, I suspect that is due to the all-round meaningless points I am responding to.