[MeImCounting]

So to clarify its totally fine for police to act as judge jury and executioner if the crime is bad enough? Screw the whole legal process and the idea of trials, juries and the rule of law generally? At this point why do we even have a judicial apparatus? Just give cops carte blanche to do whatever they see fit, since we dont care about the rule of law anyway.

[ethanbond]

No

[MeImCounting]

So wait its not good for cops to execute people at will or what? Now I'm confused...

[ethanbond]

Of course it’s not good for cops to “execute people at will.” What are you confused about?

[MeImCounting]

I am confused about what the guns are for if not for killing people.

It seems like you already said you dont believe in just circumventing due process and the judicial system so I am just at a total loss in trying to understand why the police would need guns. Maybe killing dogs?

[ethanbond]

I am very sorry to hear you’re at a total loss in trying to understand why the police would need guns. Do you live in the US?

[MeImCounting]

I sure do! It may also surprise you to hear that I fully support private citizens being able to own and carry guns.

I feel like perhaps I am not communicating my point well here. By giving police guns we are implying that we as a society are OK with them using those weapons. By using those weapons they are likely to kill people. By killing people they are acting as judge jury and executioner. This would seem to imply that we as a society are totally fine with police circumventing the judiciary system.

The argument of course is that cops need guns to protect themselves. Unfortunately guns do not stop bullets. A gun is going to do nothing to stop a cop being shot. Unless they use that gun on the shooter. Thereby again acting as judge jury and executioner. Do you see the problem here?