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I can truly relate to poor management. I'm unsure though if the author is referring at times to poor engineering/HR managers, or poor product managers. At my company they call the latter Product Owners but it's the same thing I believe. I deal so often with both being terrible. I've had terrible Engineering Managers, who simply don't understand the tech, and in the worst case they think they do but don't. Add in some office politics and they can make life truly unbearable. Same for Product Managers but it's a whole other array of chaos. I've had a tough time with poor managers, and so I can really relate to that aspect of this.

What I wonder though reading between the lines is if Gitlab has reached a point where they suffer from poor Product Managers/Product Owners. I see that in later stage startups and especially large orgs. One would hope Gitlab, by nature of its product space, would never suffer from that, so if they are that's disheartening. I'm unsure what at this point would really differentiate Gitlab from Github unless it's devex, and to have good devex they'd need engineering centric product vision, I hope Gitlab is not losing that by hiring an army of "Business Analysts" or MBA's. On the positive, in some respects I like hearing that HN comments drive the vision at Gitlab :)