[ben_w]

Such conspiracy theories amuse and confuse me in equal measure.

Do you also think North Korea, Cuba, and Iran either don't exist or want to be part of this coverup? Do you live in a world where there's really only one government and any indication to the contrary is mere kayfabe?

[chad_stephens]

I’m sure they do, and for all we know may Iran is part of the conspiracy. Cuba and NK are small fry and are probably excluded.

In the lore, multiple governments are involved in the conspiracy. They keep it secret because it is a race to see who can crack the alien tech the fastest.

There have been cases in the lore of other countries (Brazil and Zimbabwe i believe) having encounters or alleged down aircraft and the US has came in to investigate/recover the down object.

I don’t think there is a world government, but i do think we cooperate with each other.

Also President Clinton says he tried to get information on UFOs but they refused and gave him the runaround.

[ben_w]

My previous (brief) line manager was Iranian. I asked him if the Iranian rhetoric about the USA being "the great Satan" was a translation issue or sincere, he said it was sincere.

[simne]

Greetings from Ukraine!

Must say, from practice of living on fast changing territory, it is very typical for people to hate all new, because sometimes new things appear too fast, that just their appear are pain.

This is not something supernatural. Even more - for people is natural when things are NOT change fast, even when all these new things are good. I'm sure, you will admit, from steam railroad there was many things very scary. And Iranians have right to say, that English and Americans opened this Pandora box.

[ben_w]

That's why I asked if it was a translation issue; "scary" is understandable and mild, "actual literal Satan" is much more severe.

[simne]

That is difference of "1st world" and other world.

In 1st world, changes are just literally changes, may be you retire later or your deposit will become smaller for few bucks.

But in "3rd world", life is extremely fragile. Most people does not have savings, and typically to not have any safety measures, just because constant under-financed. For example, in India, great disaster, when temperature falls below zero - every time this happen, people die.

So, people in 3rd world typically consider literal daemon everyone who do risky things or ask others to do risky things. People even could literally kick somebody for talking about risky things.

[ben_w]

You're over-estimating the average first-world experience; people on this forum are mostly much richer than the average of those who live in the same nations. People die in the UK from the heat and the cold, and yet religious beliefs are on the decline; the US is richer yet more religious than the UK.

Also, the theocratic leadership of Iran is not so fragile.