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by overstay8930 867 days ago
It is shocking how few people understand how DNS works
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Ok, but please don't post empty putdowns.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Given this isn’t only DNS, agreed.

This changes:

- Registry,

- Name Server and

- DNSEC

More details here:

https://indico.dns-oarc.net/event/48/contributions/1038/atta...

Those are all part of the DNS.
It never fails to amuse. Our world is full of really complex tech which people are eager to learn, yet those same people will seem to be allergic to DNS despite it being very simple (at least the main parts of it).
Look at the amount of coders who can struggle with simple system settings.

Some people only learn what they want to or need to learn, the bare minimum.

I wasn't sure what you were referring to until reading the other top-level comments. Wow. And that's on a site with a technical audience!
In people’s defense DNS is complicated. Try building a product that uses it and realize there are a ton of edge cases to handle
They don’t need to know the edge cases to understand the basics of how DNS works. It is a foundational element of how the internet works and any software dev should have at least some fundamental knowledge of it (unless they don’t do anything that ever touched networking which I imagine is rather rare).
While there are certainly complex and weird stuff in the DNS world. The basic of how the DNS works is really not that complicated.
Yeah, but it's not like those comments are making a mistake about how the tech works because they're looking to learn something today. Posting an axe-grinding comment that shows a clear misunderstanding of the technology on a technical forum is an unforced and pretty indefensible error.
Paul Vixie quote and link to explanations: "DNS is a distributed, coherent, reliable, autonomous, hierarchical database, the first and only one of its kind."

https://queue.acm.org/detail.cfm?id=1242499

As someone that was dealing with my domain being squatted on, I can say I know more about DNS today than I did yesterday.
This being the top comment means there are enough people here smug because they know how DNS works. People who need to know generally know. Nobody can know everything and most people don't need to know how it works.
It is shocking how few people understand how business works. If you think Cloudflare wants to be in the registrar business, not push their Anti DDoS stuff on a captive audience, I have a bridge to sell you.
> registrar business

They're the registry, not the registrar. CISA is the registrar for .gov domains, Cloudflare just handles the backend. (DNS and whois infrastructure)

Government employees likely never see anything about Cloudflare at all when they manage the DNS settings for domains, just like I never see anything about Charleston Road Registry (Google subsidiary) when I manage a .dev domain on Name.com.

> push their Anti DDoS stuff on a captive audience

How is this a captive audience? Are you implying Cloudflare won't allow .gov domains to use non-cloudflare nameservers?

> push their Anti DDoS stuff on a captive audience

This is a very provocative way to spin “selling the CDN services customers are buying”. What reason do we have to think anyone is an unwilling party to that transaction?

How dare they sell their reliable and popular products at rates untouched by akamai and fastly.