[Broken_Hippo]

Some values should change.

If a trans person (or other minority) cannot go around your town unharassed, I don't understand why you'd want to keep that value instead of valuing humans as humans and treating them as such.

Why the fuck would I, being bisexual, move to such a place - where I can't be open about basic things? Why would I move somewhere that friends didn't have that option?

[rpmisms]

They wouldn't be harassed. They would simply feel estranged, because there's a comprehension barrier between the people here and the people who've made sexual identity their raison d'être.

[Broken_Hippo]

Just because you wouldn't see it doesn't mean that they wouldn't be harassed. Harassment happens everywhere, but it is more in conservative areas that cling to outdated, selectively applied religious "morals".

Estrangement and shunning is a type of abuse and has the same sort of effects as actual harassment. They happen at the same time. Do you think this is an OK alternative?

Trans isn't a sexual identity, btw. Might try learning from people better spoken than I am - or even better, from someone actually trans.

[rpmisms]

> Estrangement and shunning is a type of abuse and has the same sort of effects as actual harassment. They happen at the same time. Do you think this is an OK alternative?

Yes. Freedom of association is perfectly acceptable, even if it makes people unhappy.

> Trans isn't a sexual identity, btw.

I'd disagree. It's strongly related to sexuality. I have also had two good friends who were trans, and both killed themselves, one due to depression from realizing they could never be their old self again, the other in a psychotic episode. I'm not anti-trans-people, I'm anti trans-as-the-first-solution for dysphoric disorders. Most people in my area simply don't get good vibes and therefore don't engage.