[paulddraper]

> So they freely admit that their thing will draw or even lose in these positions.

Yeah, they didn't use Stockfish for the lols.

They create a search-less engine for chess. And then used a search engine to pay a small minority of the game.

[mtlmtlmtlmtl]

Yes. So how is this irrelevant for qualifying as GM-level play then? Being able to play these positions is a clear prerequisite for even being in the ballpark of GM strength. If you regularly choke in completely winning endgames, you'll never get there.

This is cheating, plain and simple. It would never fly in human play or competitive computer play. And it's most definitely disingenuous research. They made an engine, it plays a certain level, and then they augment it with preexisting software they didn't even write themselves to beef up their claims about it.

[littlestymaar]

> If you regularly choke in completely winning endgames, you'll never get there.

Except we're talking about moves where no human player would choke because they are basically impossible to lose except by playing at random (which is what the bot does).

It makes no sense to try and compare to a human player in the same situation because no human player could at the same time end up in such a position against a strong opponent and be unable to exploit them once there…

It's basically a bug, and what they did is just working around this particular bug in order to have a releasable paper.