[cfinnberg]

I have noticed that runas is mentioned as an already existing sudo alternative, but as far as I know, runas asks you for the administrator's password. sudo asks the own user password. This is how you give a non administrator user the right to use some application/tool without revealing the admin's password.

Or does runas work differently than I thought?

[flir]

You're right, but on my work environment I have two accounts - "me" and "me with elevated permissions". (I don't say "admin" because there's still a bunch of stuff I can't do, like run netsh). I assumed that was the normal pattern in Windows-land?

[WorldMaker]

It is something of the normal pattern, it always seems like companies love it. It always seems like UAC with extra steps to me. It's not that much more secure than taking UAC as-is and dialing up the security settings on UAC prompts to require a password every time. It's often amusing to me that everywhere I've seen require "secondary accounts" for admin permissions has dialed down the overall security settings of UAC below the defaults.

[Repulsion9513]

Hacker accesses some legacy application that verifies the user's credentials against LDAP. Maybe it's payroll or something. Hacker logs passwords until someone who happens to be a org-wide local admin (or worse yet DA) wants their paystub. Hacker now has admin privileges.

(Also, if UAC settings are turned down, that might mean the UAC prompt isn't on the secure desktop, and any malware can thus trivially elevate itself if your everyday account is an admin... etc.)

[cchance]

Thats a ... ya no, thats definitely not the default pattern

[WorldMaker]

Right, I don't think runas has a "sudo-mode" in terms of "let the user elevate their own permissions for specific tools even if they don't have an elevated account to elevate to", but runas is so low level and has so many weird combinations of arguments that maybe there is a buried similar way to that, I can't say for sure.

But the base "sudo" case where you have an account that supports UAC elevation (you are your own administrator) runas definitely supports as the CLI way to invoke UAC prompts for your own account, not just other administrator accounts. (Using the /trustlevel flag accordingly, as I recall.)

[Repulsion9513]

My question is more why they couldn't add this functionality into runas, rather than making a new tool that doesn't even do what its name says it does :)