[stri8ed]

It's impossible to prove.

[azemetre]

Is it? Watching animals attack other animals, suffering seems very likely.

What’s the reason why science would dismiss it? That the animal doesn’t fill out a survey afterwards?

[lupire]

You can't even prove if humans suffer.

What is suffering?

[m1n7]

If I were to make dinner out of you, you'd probably agree that that's suffering—no need to get more philosophical than that.