Hacker News new | ask | show | jobs
by dorianmariefr 860 days ago
"Sorry, Gemini Advanced isn't available for you"

"Gemini Advanced is not yet available in some countries, for work accounts, or for users under a certain age."

Learn more: https://login.corp.google.com/request?s=support.corp.google....

3 comments

Google Work Paying users always get the short end of the stick.
Workspace users always get features after free consumer accounts so that organization admins have time to evaluate them, update training materials, etc.

This is a feature, not a bug.

And of course there are lots of features that Workspace accounts get, that free accounts don't get at all. Like the timeline view in Sheets.

So instead of giving you a feature toggle, they just don’t give you the feature at all.
I get making new features an opt-in thing for workspace, but from what I can tell I can't even enable it for my workspace domain. I'm not able to enable it for myself to evaluate it and update training materials.
Features are enabled via the enterprise rollout schedule documented here:

https://workspaceupdates.googleblog.com/

You evaluate features and updating training materials from what is documented here and in online help, together with any testing you want to do using free consumer accounts which you can obviously create at any time.

I've been a Worspace/Apps admin for over a decade; I'm well aware of how this works.

What I'm saying is, from what I can see in the admin portal, there's no place for me to go today to enable Gemini for my users. Things are routinely weeks or months delayed before they even become available to enable for Workspace tenants, and often times features just never get offered.

But then you know that's normal? Things aren't being "delayed" weeks, they're following the rollout calendar designed to give admins time to prepare. Things aren't meant to be enabled in advance.

And like I said, there's plenty of stuff that's only available in paid Workspace. A lot of business features live there. (While things that are meant only for personal consumers aren't there.)

Being stuck in a free GSuite legacy account is even worse. Migrating to a regular Google account seems impossible (moving everything, losing purchases, changing my YouTubeTV and Google Fi subscriptions) and I get every feature later, if at all (can't use YouTubeTV Family Sharing, for example.) But I'm stuck for the most part! By the time it's available for me, I'll have forgotten about Gemini altogether.
As always I feel stupid for giving google my money.
"We're using your personal conversations for training data. Thanks."

This is acceptable. Consumers click without reading, and don't have any strong organizational ability to punish Google for this.

"We're training our AI on the questions of your idiot employees who are inevitably going to submit user PII CSVs or PDFs or even just outright draft emails to suppliers with our tool. Thanks."

You don't want to pick this kind of fight with a corporation, and as a corporation, you don't want this to happen to you.

Sure, in this case. But I can’t use my family Gmail account for my Nest thermostat for the same reason.
AI summary isn't even available on my Pixel 8 Pro. I have little hope of using Gemini in Q1.
"Please sign in your Google account"
.. while using the most sketchy looking login form.