[kevin_thibedeau]

Even with a cyclist disregarding the law, it shouldn't be possible for a law abiding autonomous vehicle to collide with anything if it had confirmed the intersection was clear of traffic. Seems like it assumes an unoccupied slot behind trucks that won't always be true. What if this was a T-intersection where a cyclist wasn't obligated to stop?

[klyrs]

Ah, but people yelled because waymo was too timid. They probably did that because it's how people are expected to drive in California. Bit of a sticky wicket for waymo isn't it?

I tried this line of reasoning with a judge once. If you break the law just because people expect you to, it's still your traffic violation.