[antisthenes]

Toyota has probably shipped more battery capacity in hybrid cars than most EV manufacturers to date.

They don't need to catch up to anything.

[josefresco]

They're still killing it with hybrids and the rest of the industry, having realized that "all electric" is a little too early, is scrambling.

The RAV4 is the top selling "SUV" in America(1) and it looks like close to 50% of those are the hybrid model.

1. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/g43553191/bestselling-cars...

In 2022 it was 48%: https://evstatistics.com/2022/07/48-of-1h-2022-toyota-rav4-s...

[stetrain]

If Toyota shipped the same annual battery capacity as Tesla then they could sell 100% of their vehicles as hybrid or plug-in hybrid instead of 30%.

[stetrain]

This might be true cumulatively but certainly isn't true on an annual basis anymore.

If Toyota were shipping the same battery capacity as Tesla they could make every car they sell globally a hybrid or plug-in hybrid and they are at about 30% of that.

[woobar]

You are assuming that 100% of Toyota customers want to buy EV vehicles.

[rootusrootus]

How many EVs does Toyota sell each year? A few thousand or perhaps tens of thousands? It's at best a rounding error. Not something Toyota customers really have to worry about.

[stetrain]

I wasn’t, but who wouldn’t want a hybrid?

[mensetmanusman]

5 million prius * 14 kWhr 5 million tesla * 50 kWhr

This is probably true, hybrids may win in the US market in the short term until they are outlawed?

[kevin_thibedeau]

They'll never be outlawed. There are too many use cases for 300+ mile trips in remote areas where recharging isn't possible or less remote areas where it isn't practical.

[riku_iki]

There are laws in effect already: https://www.gov.ca.gov/2020/09/23/governor-newsom-announces-...

[katbyte]

If it’s anything like Canada it still allows for hybrid. Banning everything but BEV will never happen because Bev will never work for a small subset of users

[riku_iki]

they have similar law in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-electric-vehicles-20....

[katbyte]

That’s literally the one I was talking about, it will still permit hybrid and there is no requirement for everything to be a BEV

[petre]

> until they are outlawed?

In the US? When hell freezes over. In the Nederlands? Probably in 5-6 years.