[tambourine_man]

>…WordPress is still more than 1/3 of the web…

Why still? WordPress, like jQuery, is awesome. It's an incredibly powerful and easy open source CMS. I hope it takes more of the Web.

And if you're gonna defend the decentralization of the Web (and I do), it's hard to find a better argument than “just buy a domain and install WordPress”.

[PrimeMcFly]

It's a buggy insecure mess. No one should be advocating for wordpress.

[dawnerd]

The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid. Ya you still need to setup caching and there’s some modifications to run it at scale but that’s all a solved problem thanks to the likes of Automattic and their VIP platform.

[agos]

how much of that ⅓ of the internet is running third party plugins and themes on their WP installation?

[Macha]

If they hired bespoke custom development from contractors at the price range these WP sites are developed for, do you think that would be better code?

[dawnerd]

How much of the rest of the web are using third party dependencies in their code?

We’ve built sites for a very large social media company where everything had to be audited before production including third party plugins. WP VIP has a list of plugins they’ve vetted and/or applied their own patches to secure.

[PrimeMcFly]

> The only buggy or insecure code is really from third party plugins and themes. Wordpress core has been rock solid.

Rock solid? I don't really trust the codebase at all, and generally you need at least some plugins.

[tambourine_man]

I’d like to know the name of this alternative that’s as feature-rich and yet bullet-proof while still being open source

[rastographics]

it's called processwire and once I found it I never looked back

[PrimeMcFly]

Django and Wagtail is one option. Do a little research and you'll find others.

[vdaea]

Neither are written in PHP so they don't work on most cheap hostings.

[PrimeMcFly]

You can get a kimsufi server for $6/month, and there is plenty of cheap hosting offering django, pretty sure you can even find python hosting for free up until a point.

[collyw]

It depends on who you listen to. Non coders seem to love Wordpress. I worked in a place with a Django booking site and a Wordpress marketing site. The other two devs knew PHP, while I know python, they advised me not to learn it and to stay away.

[seydor]

nature abhors a vacuum