[defrost]

> Go look up pictures from Liberty Island, 1918.

    "The most obvious problem with the pics is that unless they were taken at the exact same point in a tidal cycle they say nothing about average sea level rise,". Raymo said that the old photo could have been taken near high tide and the recent photo could have been taken near low tide. We just don’t know.

[gonational]

All one needs to do, in order to prove the theory correct, is to take a new photo at a high springtide[1]. If it's no higher than the old photo, then the theory is correct. If it is higher, then we don't know (because the old photo could have been taken at a lower tide).

Ultimately, it doesn't matter. Without any disrespect intended, anybody, who thinks the ocean is meaningfully rising because of human activity, I'd rather not have living in my town; they're likely to vote to raise my taxes because the TV told them that if they give money to the government the weather will be gooder.

1. https://www.tideschart.com/United-States/New-York/New-York-C...

[defrost]

> Without any disrespect intended, anybody, who thinks the ocean is meaningfully rising because of human activity, I'd rather not have living in my town;

Without any disrespect, perhaps you would think differently if you'd had a career in exploration geophysics for mineral resources and energy spanning a few decades as I have had.

I started out with continent wide surveying to peg old pre-GPS maps to WGS84 and have worked on mapping the global magnetic field, the geoid (mean 1G gravity surface), continent wide tidal models and radiometric references, etc.

It's clear enough that human activity is causing more heat energy to be trapped in the lower atmosphere and upper sea levels, the artic and antartic are slowly shrinking back .. and none of this is as yet readily perpectabe to the casual human eye - good instrumentation and records tell a different story, as was peer linked in a comment here.

I have little interest in convincing you, this is just a factual statement of my experience and yourself and your town can continue to believe whatever you collectively choose - it has zero impact on what is actually happening and what the next generations will have to deal with as a result of a century of excessive fossil fuel consumption.

[groovimus]

A new generation has come up since Al Gore's fictional movie from 2006, presumably starting production in 2005. I have seen zero evidence of the predicted calamitous events that would distiguish this day from those in 2005. however I have seen the evidence of widespread problems in children who are having nighmares of a future "planetary emergency" which never seems to arrive. If children with emotional problems are the preferred social outcome of this political science, then the science is a success

[Jabbles]

Surely you would suspect any photo of being photoshopped?

Satellites take millions of "photos" around the world every day, and combined with local measurements, we have a pretty accurate record of how the sea level around Manhattan has changed over the last century: https://sealevel.info/MSL_graph.php?id=8518750&c_date=1900/1...