[nvarsj]

It's kind of the modus operandi of Kubernetes since inception. The core model is okay, but ops was always a barely constructed afterthought. And the network stack (kube-proxy) was literally a summer of code project.

I'm thinking a lot of that was by design - both Redhat and Google had incentives to get you onto their value-add to get an actual production ready system.

It also created an entire cottage industry, although much of this has faded as everyone moved to purely managed solutions. Because anything else is absolutely insane.

[treflop]

I’m not sure if it’s intentional. I don’t find the other container orchestrators that much better either.

No one ever cares about making tooling in any software project. You’re always using something by a dead-ass random third-party.

Microsoft is probably the company where I am actually using Microsoft-made tools to manage Microsoft-made products. And maybe Adobe back in the day.