[hencq]

I think there's some validity to the privacy concerns, but it seems those could be addressed with proper access controls and rules. The recordings should only really be listened to in the aftermath of an accident, in which case, as you say, the expectation of privacy should (in my opinion) take a backseat.

[zer00eyz]

On one hand I agree with you.

On the other hand, if someone recored my whole work day every day I would not be happy. I don't think you would stay at your job of that was a condition of it.

There has to be a better solution to this issue.. extended recordings in an emergency, triggers based on conditions, private keys for pilots... IDFK, cause I try not to get involved in engineering that might KILL someone.

[bigiain]

> if someone recored my whole work day every day I would not be happy

I'd be perfectly fine with not voice recording people who's daily work may or may not impact the global delivery of cat pictures.

I think if you choose a job where there are several hundred people's lives on the line relying on you doing your job professionally and correctly, the expectation of privacy argument is somewhat less convincing.

> I don't think you would stay at your job of that was a condition of it.

Some people literally have no choice. Do you think _any_ Amazon delivery driver is "happy" with their on-job surveillance? Do you think _any_ call centre worker is "happy" with "calls are recorded for quality and training purposes"?

[fipar]

I don’t disagree with you but we can’t ignore the fact that it’s much easier to find delivery drivers and call center workers than airline pilots.

As everything, it’s all about the leverage each side has.

[pests]

> if someone recored my whole work day every day I would not be happy

Many people live with this reality every day already. Remote workers with screen sharing software, certs installed so companies can spy on everything you do, retail workers under cameras all day.

[p_l]

Those people usually can take breaks away from the recorder.

[cjbprime]

I don't understand. Are you implying that recording a pilot's voice for more than two hours could kill someone? Or just that aviation is stressful and high stakes?

(I agree that it's stressful and high stakes, which is why we record it.)

[krisoft]

> I don't think you would stay at your job of that was a condition of it.

I don't think I would care. Especially if it is only read out very infrequently (when we have an accident.)

[DiggyJohnson]

Why not? Do you think other engineers are better suited for such work?

I’m just curious, because I personally work on things that could kill people directly or indirectly.

[zer00eyz]

LOL:

I like the fact that I can say "People may have acted like someone was going to die, but my code never killed any one"... its a preference, I want to know I can have a bad day, fuck up, and not have to carry the weight for my whole life.

[DiggyJohnson]

I was just asking.

> its a preference

Thanks.

[rantingdemon]

Indeed. Pretty much all your communication is recorded at any company you work for anyway.

[DiggyJohnson]

My work does not have a recording of most of my verbal communication in office, and it’s a very secure site and project.