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by Mikhail_K 869 days ago
> Deeply flawed? Not really.

Python's performance problems are unfixable without wholesale redesign of the language and standard library. Its package management is a bad joke. The developers give no indication that they have any intention to fix those problems, rather than keep stuffing more unnecessary and badly thought-out features into it.

Obsolescence should be gauged by how modern the design of a language is, rather than its popularity. By that measure, Python is manifestly obsolete, and has been even when it debuted.
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anamax 869 days ago
> Python's performance problems are unfixable

Python's performance, aka runtime, is irrelevant for this application.

Getting things done is a much better goal that being modern.

Python is very good for getting things done for a wide range of applications.

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Mikhail_K 869 days ago
> Python's performance, aka runtime, is irrelevant for this application.

While you are doing toy schematics, maybe.

> Getting things done is a much better goal that being modern.

If you don't care when this "getting things done" creates unmaintainable mess, perhaps.

Using python as platform for language design shows that the authors of "Autopile" are uninformed.

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anamax 867 days ago
> While you are doing toy schematics, maybe.

How many boards have more than 100k elements? (I'm reasonably certain that they can handle more, but ....)

Your assumption that Python necessarily results in an "unmaintainable mess" is "interesting," that is, wrong. More to the point, unmaintainable messes can be written in any language, no matter how "modern."

Not only that, but it's irrelevant. When I was a young engineer, I pointed out that a given system wasn't scalable. The person in charge of the project said "Yes, but by the time that scalability matters, I won't even be managing the person whose problem that is."

As to whether their choice of Python is fatal, feel free to do it better in a "modern language."

If you're right, you'll do well and good. If you're wrong...

What? You're not going to step into the ring?

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Mikhail_K 866 days ago
> I'm reasonably certain that they can handle more

"reasonably" is out of place here.

> our assumption that Python necessarily results in an "unmaintainable mess" is "interesting," that is, wrong.

It's not assumption, it's a conclusion based on the state of Python's "ecosystem"

> As to whether their choice of Python is fatal, feel free to do it better in a "modern language."

Yeah, the only people who can judge food are cooks themselves.

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