[crooked-v]

> everyone hides behind text

My experience with recruiters on the phone has mostly been those recruiters pulling in one or two extra random people from their company on the call to hide behind as they try to lowball me with fifteen minutes of rambling about market conditions.

[me_me_me]

Dont talk about salary with recruiter. Demand to discuss your salary with person that is hiring you. They are looking to hire people, they have the say who gets hired and they decide on the number.

Talk to them not man in the middle that has no power. And person that will try everything to lowball you.

[djmips]

It's complicated by the fact that recruiters can make a percentage of your salary.