[bettercallsalad]

I like how the title already has decided it is __stupid__ instead of having an honest faith debate.

My view on pornography as someone who suffered from addiction and still sometimes fall back to it is, it’s a symptom of a underlying societal pathology.

Human beings are designed to crave physical intimacy. That’s what make a species successful at the evolutionary stage. If you believe in evolution and science then you must believe that’s true. If you go against that, you are doomed as a species.

The problem is in many aspects, we are doing everything we can as a species to counter our evolutionary fitness.

I bet if there was a societal dynamics where people were to find partners in organic manner and have meaningful relationships, worrying about pornography reaching to kids would be less of a thing.

Too many of our personal relationships are polluted with doses of dopamine, coupled with dysfunction in the dynamics in relation to the way people seek their partner.

There is a reason sperm count has dropped 50% just in a generation and 25% of young women are on SSRI. What is going on in America?Is it the food we are eating, garbage we are consuming in our phone everyday that cause us to live in a dysfunctional reality where porn becomes the mean to release your evolutionary urge? Why is every millennial and GenZ choosing to delay family and relationship formation? Is it rent seeking class choke holding an entire other class of people? Ultimately is that too a class war issue?

no one is asking these questions. Our beloved journalists are busy studying the Russian aggression on Ukraine more than corporate invasion on every aspect of American soul.

[cqqxo4zV46cp]

So you got addicted to porn and in what seems like insane overcorrection are yearning for Traditional Family Values?

Yes, I am going to continue to call this brain-fart of a policy “stupid”.

[ndriscoll]

Why is it stupid to require devices have parental control settings that are default enabled when you indicate during device setup that the user is a child and, when enabled, turn on a "generally accepted and commercially reasonable filter", with a password for the parent or guardian to disable/re-enable?

Or is it stupid that it's illegal to turn off parental controls for someone else's kid without the parent's consent (the article author is upset about this one for some reason)?

Or what part of the policy is stupid?

[scmkr]

It’ll be expensive, complicated, unenforceable, and won’t actually prevent anyone from seeing porn on the internet. This solution isn’t based in reality in any way. Its purpose is to signal virtue.

[ndriscoll]

You know that these features already exist, right? Here's Apple's[0]. It looks like it goes well past the requirements of this law. Is it expensive to prompt whether the user is a child during device setup, and if so, enable parental controls by default?

It is trivial to enforce. Realistically there are two operating systems for these devices. Do they prompt for the user's age during setup? Do they enable parental controls by default when the age is under 18?

No one thinks it will prevent people from seeing porn. That's not a goal. The part of the law I quoted specifically says you just need to make a good-faith effort to enable a generally accepted, commercially reasonable filter when the user is a child. Likewise, no one thinks turning children away when they try to buy alcohol or porn in person will keep them from getting those things. But it's an easy, reasonable step to cut access, and as far as I know everyone agrees that we want to restrict access to those things to children.

The bill might be about virtue signaling if phones already meet the requirements anyway. But then it's not a bad policy; it's just codifying what's already done. Or phones aren't meeting the requirements, and it's not a virtue signal. Asking trillion dollar software companies to have a parental control prompt is not unreasonable.

[0] https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201304

[cchance]

How do you enforce a kid disabling the parental settings by resetting their phone, and getting caught later watching porn... how do you now deal with the parent fine them the 5,000, 50,000$?

What about for kids/parent combinations where the parent isn't technically adept and just gives the kid devices to setup as is the case 99% of the time, lots of parents have their technical kids do the tech setups on devices cause they don't have the time or desire to learn to deal with it.

The issue with laws like this are that it's not going to be a rich guy getting in trouble for his rich son watching porn, it's going to be some poor kid getting his parents in trouble because the parent was busy working 3 jobs and didn't have time to screw with their kids parental controls, and end up screwed.

[uberman]

Does everything you just said apply to firearms as well?

[pavel_lishin]

Okay, but they're not calling attempts to control pornography stupid; they're calling this very specific bill, and its approach, stupid.

> no one is asking these questions. Our beloved journalists are busy studying the Russian aggression on Ukraine more than corporate invasion on every aspect of American soul.

Plenty of people are asking this question, but at the same time, sperm count dropping is probably not quite as urgent as a potential outbreak of World War III.

[cchance]

True, but its almost like people can deal with more than 1 issue at a time

[TimedToasts]

I hear you my man. American men show very worrying numbers and trends wrt sexual health, fitness, et al. It's quite terrible to see first hand - I don't have any answers but my experience is often that the parents themselves have been damaged in many cases.

I don't know what can be done. There's many healthy ones among the groups but I dunno, I despair at times.

Hang in there. Focus inwardly and be sure to maintain your overall health.

[throwaway5959]

Maybe there isn’t a delay in family formation but instead a realization that kids aren’t for everyone and people are finally pushing back against pressure to have them.

[PeterStuer]

Those gene-lines that needed pressure to have kids went extinct long time ago. Having no offspring is a fairly terminal evolutionary outcome.