[solsenNet]

Microsoft has learned a trick about recruiting straight from college developers.

Microsoft quotes the new higher a large number (120k per year) but it is all back end weighted to a bonus at the 15th month or some sort.

this allows Microsoft to see the work product and fire the ones that don't cut it, way before the bonus comes.

[keithnoizu]

I think my benefactors approach to hiring fresh grads has more to do with lowered resistance to, in my personal opinion, horrible internal politics & internal systems.

It is my understanding that generally a new hire will do well on their first year's review cycle as a low mark would reflect poorly on the hiring manager that approved them. So generally you'll hit your target bonus of 15% or whatever it is nowadays.