[mango7283]

just f the rest of us blue teamers right. can;t even have a fing quiet saturday. week after week after week.

and holier than thou it people call us incompetant just because we won;t allow a half dozen unmonitorable open source solutions hacked together as an alternative to using vendor crap. :)

[fullspectrumdev]

If you (blue team) are getting in the way of IT operations, you probably are due some criticism.

Security teams should be enablers, and work to find ways to add monitoring - not just “the no department”.

[mango7283]

Yeah ideally, is just we never have enough time and resources to do this right because we're always pulled into firefighting previous insecurity decisions.

That and never having weekends because we can't go one week without yet another CVE

Yeah I'm just frustrated I'm not anywhere near the ideal as I want to be